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kzoopair 73M/71F
8610 posts
11/13/2016 9:03 am
Shame!



There is currently a malfunction in the United States of America. It seems we have inadvertently voted to have a misogynist, racist carnival barker and erstwhile con man as our president and de facto leader of the free world. Wait- strike that. The leader of the free world is now Angela Merkel- you know, the successor to the Third Reich who recoiled at the attempts at shoulder massages by the last man of the people who we decided we’d like to have a beer with, elected as our fucking president by the United States Supreme Court? Yeah, that’s the guy. Dubya. But Dubya wasn’t dumb enough to satisfy us so we doubled down on stupidity and elected Donald J. Trump. This is all about getting over on the guy next to you. Fuck him. Its all about me. So much for e pluribus unum, you dumb fuckers. Don’t worry about the poor of a bitch next to you. Let the bastard find his own fucking lifeboat.

In one vote, one election, Americans who have in such self congratulatory fashion bragged about being a melting pot that welcomes “your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”, decided instead to embrace hatred, jealousy and rank fear to deny the humanity of our countrymen and fellow human beings. In this week, I hope against hope that my atheism is incorrect- that there is indeed a god and that she will consign every one of you to burn in a lake of fire for all eternity. Fuck you, fuck your progeny and fuck all your issue forever, you sorry and sad excuses for men. You are a congress of baboons, with my apologies to the goddamn baboons. So much for American exceptionalism. It just so happens that we are apparently only exceptional at fucking up a wet dream. There was indeed a noble experiment going on here. We nearly lost it in 1860 but fortunately our forbears were better men than we and saved our worthless souls for a generation or two. But, never fear, we’ve revealed our true character for what we really are- sad sorry miserable and selfish fuckwits who can’t see past the next plate of hot wings or the next pitcher of beer. You disgust me. I want to watch you grubbing for roots in the filth from which you came and to which you will surely return.

Americans were assured by the robot pundits who clutter what passes for news programs these days that the voters would reject Trump resoundingly, and they indeed voted to elect Hillary Clinton. So for the second time in sixteen years a candidate will assume the presidency after having been outvoted by a plurality of citizens. And now the same puppet pundits are instructing us all to accept this fascist loudmouth with open arms and give him a chance to succeed.

Don’t wait up for me. I won’t be going to that party.

What I will be doing is making noise. I’ll be standing up and shouting “Not my president!” and “Rise up! Fight back!” I’ll be standing in a crowd of all those who are marginalized and scapegoated by the neo-nazi thugs. I’ll be hollering my support for women, gays, lesbians, transgenders, blacks, hispanic, muslims, the disabled….that list is legion. It seems only white western european males are acceptable Americans now. There can be no excuses for condoning Trump and what he stands for. A vote for Trump was a vote for hatred and bigotry and bullying. And every voter who cast that ballot put his stamp of approval on a rebirth of fascism.

The rest of us may not win. We may not keep him from ramming his moronic policies up our asses. We may not stop him and that used car salesman Paul Ryan from dismantling the last vestiges of the New Deal, but we can say the truth, and we can take a page from their own playbook and obstruct every inch of the way. We can still stand up and be counted and we can form a circle around our targeted friends. We can pledge to take back first the house, then the executive and next the senate. The judicial branch is now lost to us for at least a generation thanks to the travesty of this election. But we can start. Rome wasn’t built in a day. The country is changing. Young people voted overwhelmingly for Clinton, and more importantly, they voted against hate.

But for the present, we fight back. There can be no making nice with racism. No peace with fascists!


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Furbal1972 51M
18571 posts
11/13/2016 9:29 am

Wow. Your outrage is palpable. .. I get it.

I too was disappointed in the outcome. I am fearful for what may come over the next four years.

I found myself cheering on the protesters. It seemed like every high school wanted to get on the news. Those kids looked dumb as fuck, still .. I cheered them on. (Until they start blocking traffic. Some of us still gotta work.) .. Protests had morphed into No DAPL by Saturday.

Yes, maybe it is time to do away with the electoral college. But I'm just a little guy.

God (or FSM or whatever) help us.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 9:46 am

    Quoting Furbal1972:
    Wow. Your outrage is palpable. .. I get it.

    I too was disappointed in the outcome. I am fearful for what may come over the next four years.

    I found myself cheering on the protesters. It seemed like every high school wanted to get on the news. Those kids looked dumb as fuck, still .. I cheered them on. (Until they start blocking traffic. Some of us still gotta work.) .. Protests had morphed into No DAPL by Saturday.

    Yes, maybe it is time to do away with the electoral college. But I'm just a little guy.

    God (or FSM or whatever) help us.
We're going to have to help ourselves. God clearly is not interested.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 9:53 am

    Quoting  :

I honestly believed that Dubya was plenty dumb enough to satisfy the most ignorant redneck goober. But Trump surprised us all by doubling down on his bet that nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

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spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
11/13/2016 9:57 am

I can well understand your stand.
The world has taken a horrible turn over recent years - I think it can be traced to the 2008 financial crisis; financial and economic shocks always lead to political shocks.
The rise of nationalism at best and xenophobia/racism/fascism at worst across the world is frightening. In the UK, there's the rise of the UK Independence Party led by Trump's racist friend Nigel Farage that culminated in Brexit and increased hate crime against EU nationals. In the rest of Europe, the far Right are on the march in Germany, France and the Netherlands, all three of which have key elections next year In America, there's the Trump phenomenon.
Though I'm no believer that history repeats itself, but the parallels between now and the inter-war years are frightening. Rising unemployment may be the catalyst for war.
Though globalisation has undoubtedly produced winners (eg China, India and mobile skilled professionals) and losers (eg America, Greece and relatively low-skilled Western workers), the answer isn't trade wars and protectionism. The answer lies in managing such change through
investment, education and training, etc.
Protectionism was what happened in the inter-war years. After the Second World War, many people, especally in Western Europe, believed that trade was a key way of reducing the likelihood of war. Their quite reasonable assumption was that countries are less likely to go to war with each other if they are trading with each other.
Hitler promised to put Germany first, amidst much hatred, bigotry and killing. Trump is starting to do the same.
The only crumb of comfort I can find, and it is only a crumb, is that US presidents sometimes find it difficult to get what they want.
Trump has given people in America and beyond licence to promote hatred; this genie is very difficult to put back in the bottle once let loose.
I'm so down with all this, but the fight must go on.


pocogato12 71F  
37235 posts
11/13/2016 10:10 am

I think you have stated this issue in very clearly understood language. The entire east coast felt it, too, and will for the next fours years

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NaughtyInSO 113F
9755 posts
11/13/2016 10:10 am

I hate politics and despise politicians. Hillary Clinton is not an exception - she's a power hungry liar. But aren't all politicians?
There was one seemingly decent candidate among Democrats - Bernie Sanders but party chose Clinton, and that shocked me.
And we ended up with a choice between also power hungry misogynist, bigot, racist and foulmouthed bully Trump and liar Clinton. Not much of a choice, is there.

I can rationalize why so many people voted Trump. He promised to return jobs to America - that was his main appeal.
But what I can't rationalize or simply comprehend is how that one alluring promise could outweigh his numerous flaws of character and outrageous behavior. I'm still trying to process how could women vote for Trump.

Younger people grieving in somewhat different way than we do. But, they're already up in arms. There are things that need to be changed before anything else, in my opinion - electoral college.

I agree with Furbal - history tells that electoral college does not represent will of all people. It proved to be outdated in 2000 and it proved that again this year.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 10:13 am

    Quoting spunkycumfun:
    I can well understand your stand.
    The world has taken a horrible turn over recent years - I think it can be traced to the 2008 financial crisis; financial and economic shocks always lead to political shocks.
    The rise of nationalism at best and xenophobia/racism/fascism at worst across the world is frightening. In the UK, there's the rise of the UK Independence Party led by Trump's racist friend Nigel Farage that culminated in Brexit and increased hate crime against EU nationals. In the rest of Europe, the far Right are on the march in Germany, France and the Netherlands, all three of which have key elections next year In America, there's the Trump phenomenon.
    Though I'm no believer that history repeats itself, but the parallels between now and the inter-war years are frightening. Rising unemployment may be the catalyst for war.
    Though globalisation has undoubtedly produced winners (eg China, India and mobile skilled professionals) and losers (eg America, Greece and relatively low-skilled Western workers), the answer isn't trade wars and protectionism. The answer lies in managing such change through
    investment, education and training, etc.
    Protectionism was what happened in the inter-war years. After the Second World War, many people, especally in Western Europe, believed that trade was a key way of reducing the likelihood of war. Their quite reasonable assumption was that countries are less likely to go to war with each other if they are trading with each other.
    Hitler promised to put Germany first, amidst much hatred, bigotry and killing. Trump is starting to do the same.
    The only crumb of comfort I can find, and it is only a crumb, is that US presidents sometimes find it difficult to get what they want.
    Trump has given people in America and beyond licence to promote hatred; this genie is very difficult to put back in the bottle once let loose.
    I'm so down with all this, but the fight must go on.
Thank you my friend. There really is no other choice but defiance. As firmly as I believe in compromise and cooperation, there can be no compromise with bigotry and bullying. Charity begins at home and that's where Pam and I will start. We have to change our state government first. That's how the conservatives seized power, and that's how we take it back.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 10:19 am

    Quoting  :

Faulkner wrote that the past is never dead. It's not even past. We're still fighting that war.

We have a responsibility to each other and to ourselves and our heirs to leave the world in a better state.

Not my president!

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 10:22 am

    Quoting pocogato12:
    I think you have stated this issue in very clearly understood language. The entire east coast felt it, too, and will for the next fours years
I am so fucking angry and ashamed at what my countrymen have done. There's no way this election should have been close! There was a clear choice to vote against hatred, for two years running. There was every opportunity to do the decent thing and Trump's petulant supporters failed.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 10:28 am

    Quoting NaughtyInSO:
    I hate politics and despise politicians. Hillary Clinton is not an exception - she's a power hungry liar. But aren't all politicians?
    There was one seemingly decent candidate among Democrats - Bernie Sanders but party chose Clinton, and that shocked me.
    And we ended up with a choice between also power hungry misogynist, bigot, racist and foulmouthed bully Trump and liar Clinton. Not much of a choice, is there.

    I can rationalize why so many people voted Trump. He promised to return jobs to America - that was his main appeal.
    But what I can't rationalize or simply comprehend is how that one alluring promise could outweigh his numerous flaws of character and outrageous behavior. I'm still trying to process how could women vote for Trump.

    Younger people grieving in somewhat different way than we do. But, they're already up in arms. There are things that need to be changed before anything else, in my opinion - electoral college.

    I agree with Furbal - history tells that electoral college does not represent will of all people. It proved to be outdated in 2000 and it proved that again this year.
My wife and I marched with those young people Thursday and we'll rally with them again. They're our best hope!

Unlike you, I can't rationalize how so many people ignored trump's racism and misogyny. Americans have demonstrated over and over that they don't recognize incompetence when it does a pratfall right under their noses, but no one is being fooled here- they knew they were casting their votes for a bigot and a bully and they were fine with it. And now so many feel empowered by it.

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wickedeasy 74F
32404 posts
11/13/2016 10:43 am

weezer and I are headed to Washington. wish us luck.

protest is something I strongly believe in. we have the right and the moral imperative.

do not go gently........

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 10:54 am

    Quoting wickedeasy:
    weezer and I are headed to Washington. wish us luck.

    protest is something I strongly believe in. we have the right and the moral imperative.

    do not go gently........
If you're going in January we'll see you there!

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Annie_34 65T
5945 posts
11/13/2016 11:45 am

Bonjour Kzoopair
C'est vrai que c'est un mauvais coup à la démocratie .
Mais l'histoire nous dit que rien n'est immuable et que même les plus grands empires finissent un jour .
La liberté l'égalité la fraternité sont partout en voie de disparition voilà pour moi où est le mal .
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♥ Poton ♥ Bisou ♥ Annie ♥


Hello Kzoopair
It is true that it is a bad blow to democracy.
But history tells us that nothing is immutable and that even the greatest empires end one day.
Freedom equality fraternity are everywhere endangered here is for me where is the evil.
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sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
11/13/2016 1:50 pm

I life in Canada and now been seeing the News down in Mexico for the past week. It doesn't look good for them here. After the election the pesos went down. I think we have a bill boil to climb for the next 4 years for both Countries. Stay tall and firm B hugs V

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LiveLifeDoU 69F  
2199 posts
11/13/2016 2:04 pm

My son, daughter in law and I were talking about this just a few hours ago. My daughter in law is studying international politics at the UW and knows a lot about US history and politics as well so she is a wealth of information. She was reading outloud from somewhere about civil war. I don't usually speak up but I did this time, as I have quite a lot since Trump was elected. I told them that it feels like this country may be headed for a Civil War, if things go the way Trump wants them to go...could it really come to a civil war? Like you said, kzoo....those of us willing to put our voices, our bodies, our freedoms and even our lives on the line to form that barracade around people targeted by this hatred. I hope it does not come to more than just our voices and our bodies in protest....I hope there are enough sane people in power who would listen to the masses protesting and do something positive before it got real bad. We all need to be vigilant, let our voices be heard...do not sit back and hope it goes away. Even on this site, we have seen that does not work.
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HamburgDave2 80M
16526 posts
11/13/2016 2:20 pm

Well said Bill, i have to echo the thoughts of Spunkycumfun as far as this side of the pond is concerened! I was discusted, to see Nigel Farage being interviewed outside Trump Towers. This racist who failed to win a seat in the British Parliament, being the first British (Politician) to make contact with Trump
I thank God, he is not my President


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tickles4us 62M
7262 posts
11/13/2016 2:33 pm

Well done.

You know how I feel. One of the places we need to start vote wise is to change or eliminate the Electoral College at the state level. Make it a more proportional system if we can't get rid of it all together.

Hate crime laws need to be enforced vigorously before they overturn that legislation or just choose to ignore it.

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sexysixties2 106F
39750 posts
11/13/2016 2:37 pm

I have just commented on Lindo's blog about this. I find it very hard to express my feelings.....except to say that I am shocked, horrified and disgusted. Everyone must show that they will not be used by this man. His values must not become the norm in your land. I pray for you for I think it will get worse....much worse before it gets better.

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lindoboy100 61M
23969 posts
11/13/2016 3:10 pm

Shame, we should all be ashamed. Shame on us all for allowing this to happen. Now let's make ourselves proud again by fighting back!

You know my feelings on this wretched outcome.......


lindoboy100 61M
23969 posts
11/13/2016 3:10 pm

Shame, we should all be ashamed. Shame on us all for allowing this to happen. Now let's make ourselves proud again by fighting back!

You know my feelings on this wretched outcome.......

Great post McPairs!


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 6:02 pm

    Quoting  :

Thank you Cinn. I'm mad!

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 6:03 pm

    Quoting Annie_34:
    Bonjour Kzoopair
    C'est vrai que c'est un mauvais coup à la démocratie .
    Mais l'histoire nous dit que rien n'est immuable et que même les plus grands empires finissent un jour .
    La liberté l'égalité la fraternité sont partout en voie de disparition voilà pour moi où est le mal .
    À lire Jack Baron et l'éternité de Norman Spinrad
    ♥ Poton ♥ Bisou ♥ Annie ♥


    Hello Kzoopair
    It is true that it is a bad blow to democracy.
    But history tells us that nothing is immutable and that even the greatest empires end one day.
    Freedom equality fraternity are everywhere endangered here is for me where is the evil.
    To read Jack Baron and the eternity of Norman Spinrad
    ♥ Kiss ♥ Annie ♥








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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 6:04 pm

Thanks Apollo.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 6:09 pm

    Quoting sunnygirl129:
    Thank you for this post. As much as I don't want to live my life in fear, and as much as I have always been an optimist, the outcome of the election is terrifying. I cried for the first time in years when I woke up to the results. Others I know were physically ill. Many people in my organization took mental health days on Wednesday.
My wife and I do have things to lose with a radical right wing lock on all the branches of government, but what made my heart sink immediately was what this means for women of any color or ethnicity, for black and hispanic Americans, for immigrants, for muslims, for gays, lesbians and trans people. Anyone who isn't white anglo saxon protestant heterosexual- which I am- is apparently at risk. Trump has empowered and emboldened racist and sexist fucktards all across the country.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
11/13/2016 6:10 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    I life in Canada and now been seeing the News down in Mexico for the past week. It doesn't look good for them here. After the election the pesos went down. I think we have a bill boil to climb for the next 4 years for both Countries. Stay tall and firm B hugs V
Thank you V. Huggggggggggs, B

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